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The Untold Stories: Brave Women of the Bible and What They Teach Us Today
Author, speaker and podcaster Laura Smith is back on the podcast--one of my favorite people and a wonderful writer of GREAT books! She joins us for a compelling conversation about her fourteenth book, "Brave Woman, Mighty God," which explores the stories of 30 women in the Bible and the courage they displayed in both extraordinary and everyday situations.
Laura is giving our listeners a FREE chapter of her book to preview. Here's the link to the chapter:
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About Laura and our conversation:
• She is the author of 14 books including "Holy Care for the Whole Self," and "How Sweet the Sound"
• Committed to helping people understand how deeply they are loved by God
• Shares her journey from childhood trauma to discovering her worth in Christ
• Explains how the same power that raised Jesus from the dead lives in believers today
• Discusses how small acts of bravery can have profound impacts
• Tells the story of Huldah, an obscure biblical woman who was known for her faith during a time of widespread idol worship
• Explores how we can "exude the love of Christ" so others know they can come to us
• Shares the story of Zarephath's Widow and the lesson of God's abundant provision
• Reveals how writing books deepens her own faith as God teaches her through the process
• Discusses her podcast "Brave Woman, Mighty God" and available resources
Find Laura at https://www.laurasmithauthor.com/ or @laurasmithauthor on Instagram, where you can access free chapters of her books and other helpful resources.
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I would like to welcome one of my favorite people to the Pivotal People podcast, laura Smith. You might recognize that name because we've had her on every time she writes a book and this is the third time she's been on. She actually has 14 books, but she does about one a year and the podcast is three years old, so I'm excited to have Laura on again. I'll tell you quickly about her. She is the author of 14 books. I've read about five or six of them so far.
Speaker 1:Last time I had her on the podcast, we talked about her current book at the time and as soon as I got off, I went to Amazon and ordered two of her previous books. You're going to love her books Some of her books Holy, care for the Whole Self and how Sweet the Sound and she's also a speaker at Christian conferences and events across the country, and she has a podcast too. She does a lot of really neat things and I asked her before we started if we could just spend some time to let all of you get to know her better. She is a person who I wish lived down the street from me, and you will too when you get to know her better. So, laura welcome. Thank you so much for taking time. I know how busy you are with a book launch, so I appreciate that you'd come on our podcast and talk about your new one.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for having me back on. It is it's, since I can't actually walk down the street with a cup of coffee and hang out with you, stephanie, this is the next best thing, so thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1:That's great. Anyone who listens to this podcast regularly knows that I have a little personal rule, which is you can't have a guest on unless you've read their whole book, and I love reading. So that works really well, and our guests are generally people who are talking about faith, which is one of my favorite topics. But with Laura, with her books, what I do is I just don't read it. I have a journal and I take notes on every chapter because I'm like let's make this more of an in-depth study, because I know what's coming, because I've read so many of her books Great teaching, super relatable, super easy to understand.
Speaker 1:She combines Bible stories of people I really didn't even know about with real life stories that now I can relate. And then finally, practical application, like how can you use this story of someone thousands of years ago in your life today? Because you know the issues haven't really changed. So I feel like, as much as I've read the Bible, I feel like I learned so much more about the Bible from reading Laura's books, which is really beautiful, some kind of obscure things. This book, her newest book, is called Brave Woman, mighty God, and it's stories about 30 different women in the Bible, what their situations were, what their characteristics were and what we can learn from them. And, laura, what I learned. I didn't even know there were 30 women in the Bible. So there you go.
Speaker 2:There are more. These are just the 30 that I just decided to write about. There are more.
Speaker 1:So many of them didn't have names. We just know them by how they were referenced. Before we get into your beautiful book, could you tell us more about you? How long have you been doing this? Who are you? What are you working on?
Speaker 2:Tell us all about your stuff have a last name of Smith, so I put my middle initial on everything else because otherwise I get lost at my own library. I live in Oxford, ohio, which is this darling, picturesque college town, with my husband, who's a professor here, and Stephanie, you're friends with my husband. I love that. You guys know each other. That's actually how we met and we have four kids who are big now. Our baby's 18 and he's a senior in high school. So we're going through all the graduation prom fun stuff.
Speaker 2:I love Jesus. He has changed my life. I grew up in a Christian household but I also had some childhood trauma and I didn't feel lovable for a very long time in my life. But Jesus has changed all that and he has shown me that I am lovable, and so are you. Everyone listening. He created you in his image and he has shown me that I am lovable, and so are you. Everyone listening Like. He created you in his image and before he created the world, he chose you for the object of his love. Ephesians 1 tells us and that is just mind blowing that before he created the world, he chose you to love you, love it. Anyway, it's changed my life and I want everyone else to know that he promises goodness and love will follow us all the days of our life and I just want people to know. And so, because I want people to know, I have a podcast where I talk to people about it and I write books where I tell people about it and I'm trying to make the Bible, like you said, stephanie, applicable to them.
Speaker 2:Because it is. It's a living word of God and it's personal. Just the last two days in my own Bible, reading literally something I was praying about the day before the scripture I read this morning was about that thing. I'm like what? Like God, your Bible is alive. So I want people to know that that it's for them. It's not just these stories from 2000 years ago. It is, but it's alive. So it actually applies to you and me today.
Speaker 2:That God's goodness is for you and me today. We don't have to wait till we get to heaven to that. God's goodness is for you and me today. We don't have to wait till we get to heaven to experience God's goodness. We do get that, but we also have it every day. I run a retreat for women. Same reason I want them to know how much Jesus loves them. So this is my mission. We were joking beforehand. My husband even got me a sweatshirt that says warning I might start talking about Jesus at any time, because that's who I am. So my mission in life is to let you know how much you are loved by the Lord of the universe.
Speaker 1:And I would say, and we said before we started, that's a pretty good product to sell, if you're in the business of helping people understand how much Jesus loves them, how much the God of this universe knows us and cares about us. And, frankly, I have to be reminded of that every single day. I mean, I love to sit down with my Bible and read it every morning, but it's my like charging your phone. I have to be reminded of it because it is so hard to believe.
Speaker 2:Really, it is so hard to believe. And because we live in a very noisy world that tells us otherwise.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's right. And so when you started writing books, you started with novels. And how long ago did you start writing books?
Speaker 2:That's a good question I think a little bit over 20 years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay and you've got. So you're at almost a book a year, although Laura has become so popular. Last year didn't you write two or three books? Laura has become so popular. Last year didn't you write two or three books. I mean she's getting book deals from multiple publishers because we love her books. I mean they are so good. So I think this year, how many books did you write in the past? 12?
Speaker 2:months. Well, you're so kind, but I have had three books release in like 13 months. But that is unusual and odd and I actually hope that doesn't happen again. The goodness of God and all to his glory, but that was a lot. So it was just unusual timing with different publishers and different contracts and when I actually contracted versus when they released. But yes, we've been on quite a run here. That's great.
Speaker 1:Well, I appreciate that the problem is. I told her it takes me two days to read a book, but it takes her a year to write one. So at least you got her. What do you call it? All your previous books, so can we get into this book? I'd love to get into this book. Brave Woman, mighty God, what prompted the idea for this book?
Speaker 2:I think two things actually. One is I have never considered myself to be a brave person, and that's a lie of the enemy right there. The courage of God lives in us and he tells us to be strong and courageous. And we're told in Ephesians 1.19, back to Ephesians 1 again that the same power that rose Jesus from the grave lives in you and me. So a lot of times I think we freeze up and think, well, I couldn't do that and I'm not strong enough and I'm not brave enough to say that thing, to do that thing, to start that thing. And the truth is the same power that rose Jesus from the dead lives in us. So we are capable of doing the thing.
Speaker 2:And as I started realizing the things that God actually equipped me for, and when you kind of take one step in bravery, it kind of strengthens your courage muscles and then you take another step and I was like wait, there's so many women around me who I see with all this potential and all these great ideas, and I want them to do the same thing. So I want them to know that they actually can be brave, they can do amazing things, because God equips and empowers us actually can be brave, they can do amazing things because God equips and empowers us. So that's half of the piece of this puzzle right, that we all can be brave because God is mighty in us. But the other half of the puzzle is saying, okay, how am I going to believe that? How am I going to hold on to that? And part of that is by seeing the testimony of others, like where God has shown up and done this before.
Speaker 2:And when we look to the Bible, we see that we see these women ranging from the powerful Queen of Sheba, who was wealthy beyond measure and had caravans of riches, to Zarephath's widow, who was a single mom living below the poverty line. It didn't matter who you were, what culture you were from, what your status was. God kept showing up and equipping and empowering these women, seeing them where they were, meeting them where they were, whether that was doing their chores or saving a kingdom and equipped and empowered them. So how cool that we can marry these two ideas that God is for us and with us and will equip and empower us and take stories of women who have gone before us and who have learned this as an example and a reminder of how this is true.
Speaker 1:Well, in so many of your stories at the time, the woman. It might have seemed like a small thing, that she was doing, an easy thing for her to do, and yet it changed the trajectory of the future for all of us. I wasn't that familiar with the story of Rahab. I had certainly seen it referenced. What did she do? She just hid the spies and then told the people looking for her they'd gone a different direction. She didn't write 14 books, she didn't have to move a mountain, she just did what she could do in her little life, and that actually she could do in her little life, and that actually I in my journal.
Speaker 1:That prompted me to say, okay, what hard brave things have I done lately. And so and I just want to say this because so many times when we say hard brave things, what comes to mind are big things Like I don't know, like oh, I've got to lead an organization, I have to start a nonprofit, I have to become a big speaker and go speak at places, when really sometimes the hardest things are the little things, the hardest things. I wrote down I heard that a neighbor had cancer. I didn't know the details. Was it any of my business? Maybe not, but I just felt like gosh, I'm thinking about her, I'm going to pick up the phone and call her and ask about it.
Speaker 1:And that actually was harder for me than standing in front of a group of 100 people and talking about what I like to talk about. And I'm so glad I did it, because you can tell when you do something like that whether the person appreciated or not. And yes, she did. Sometimes the hard thing is just reaching out to our neighbor across the street. It doesn't have to be. You know, God isn't measuring our things by how the world measures it, so I did just want to throw that in. When people are listening to this, hard or brave things, it doesn't have to be things that seem unachievable within our own life.
Speaker 2:Yes, such a great point. I mean, god puts you where you are, in your neighborhood, around these people, around a neighbor who is suffering disease, right, and he puts me where I am and everyone who's listening. He puts you where you are and you're going to encounter people today and you're going to have an opportunity to do little brave things, like when everyone else is gossiping about someone, to shut down that conversation or turn it into a positive. That takes courage because you have to be the person who's not. You have to be maybe the mom who your kiddo is going over to a slumber party and they are going to watch so-and-so, such-and-such movie and you have to be brave enough to say you know what? My kid can't watch that movie because it goes against my values.
Speaker 2:There are brave. We have to have brave conversations with our spouses, with our families. We have to do brave things all the time and, yes, it can be life-changing Start your own company, and those things happen too. And cool like go do it because God is with you. But also we all are faced with brave things. We have sharing our feelings, that's brave. Admitting we're wrong, that's brave. But God empowers and equips us to do these things.
Speaker 1:Admitting you're wrong, apologizing. Those are things that can be such a you know witness of our faith, as much as you know quoting a Bible verse. You know what's quoting a Bible verse, or a platitude? How about you know just being being humble or being you know, apologizing for being wrong? I love that. Can you pull out another one of the stories, an obscure woman in the Bible who people might not know about, and do what you did in the book? Kind of tell the story and bring it to life and apply it to us? Is there one that comes to mind?
Speaker 2:I've got them all, sure, so someone who I think is very obscure, who I didn't know about until I wrote this book, is a woman named Huldah, and that's H-U-L-D-A-H. I hadn't heard of her. She's in the book, she's in Kings, and this was a time when Israel kept getting a new king who would turn the kingdom over to God and praise God. And then the next king would take over and tear down the temple and put up all of these idols and then they would turn away from God and they would turn back to God. And at this time the kingdom had turned away from God. There were idols everywhere, they hadn't been in the temple. And a new king comes and takes over and asks some people to go clean up the temple and they find the word of God in the temple.
Speaker 2:We don't know if this is just the first five books, the Torah or a little bit more of the Old Testament, but they find this big chunk of Genesis through something. And the king is like oh my gosh, we've forgotten God's word. Like, what? Like we are so far gone, we haven't even been reading his word, we don't remember what it says. And he's so moved and he loves the Lord and he wants to change this and he's, he's king, so he has some power too. So he's like, okay, like we found the word of God, like what are we supposed to do? And he sends his top guys to Huldah's house. Now this is so wild because it's been a time when no one has been worshiping the Lord and it's been against the king's will the previous king's will to worship the Lord. So people aren't being really public about this. You're not telling everyone that you love God when it's against the law, right. But everyone knew the king knew his men knew there's somebody we can go to who will know, and it was Huldah.
Speaker 2:And it just struck me in my neighborhood my neighbors know if they had a question about God, could they come to me At the coffee shop that my husband and I like to go to on Wednesday and Saturday mornings as a treat? Do the people I see there on a regular basis the baristas, some of the regulars there know that if they needed prayer they could ask me for prayer? It was just this kind of like. How did they know they could go to Holden, that she was their girl? And I was like she must have had a way about her. She must have against the culture, let people know that she loved God. And you know, our culture is a very secular culture and it's not always cool. Well, to profess that you love Jesus, so do people know?
Speaker 2:And I just thought it was such a great challenge to be like how can we let people know that we're their girl and that we don't have to have all the answers, all the answers they were looking for, but that they could still come to us and we could be like oh, I know some good Christian books you could read. I know a good Christian podcast you could listen to. You could listen to pivotal people. I know a church you could attend. You can come to church with me. Yes, I'm happy to pray for you. You know we don't have to have all the answers, but I want to be the girl that people know they could come to. And all the story just really challenged me to say like how can I, without being pushy, without being obnoxious, just how can I exude the love of Christ so that others know they could come to me?
Speaker 1:And that right there, that's the sentence. How can I exude the love of Christ so that others will come to me? Andy Stanley, our pastor, said something I really appreciated a few months ago. He talked about the early church and he talked about how they're a historian I'm going to totally mess this up because I can't remember the names, but the governor at the time is like I thought that we got the guy. We crucified this guy. Who are these people? These people are meeting, what are they doing? And he had a spy who went. And this is written in history, this is not written in the Bible. So he had a spy who went to spy on the early church to see what they were doing. And then he came back to the ruler and said I can find no fault with them. All they're doing is singing hymns to the Lord, they're praying together and they're helping the poor. I can find no fault with them. And Andy Stanley said the poor, I can find no fault with them. And Andy Stanley said can you imagine if that's how Christians were described today? So I'm not saying you know, we all know that we don't have to get into this whole divisive stuff that's going on, but can we be the ones who are simply exuding the love of Christ. We're not on the A team or the B team. We're not judging, we're not talking about policies and positions. We're just exuding the love of Christ.
Speaker 1:When someone needs prayer, do they know that you really actually do pray? When you say you're going to pray, you really actually do pray. What a wonderful, wonderful goal to have to be the person who people could. Laura, what you're talking about people could trust. If they trust us, could they trust that we really do care. It doesn't have to be thousands and thousands of people, it could just be a neighbor. You know who can really trust me. So you really hit a nerve with me there, and I think people listening can understand too. You know God can really trust me, so you really hit a nerve with me there and I think people listening can understand too. You know God doesn't call us to do huge things. He just calls us to love other people, to exude the love of Christ. I got to get that. I've got to write that down on a coffee cup.
Speaker 2:That is just really good.
Speaker 1:That is one of 30 stories. What do you learn? As I was reading this, I was like okay, you probably, as you're writing books, you're learning as much as you're teaching. So, in this whole journey that you've had of writing 14 books, how do you feel you've grown in your faith and in the way that you relate to other people?
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%, stephanie. I am only writing a book about something God is teaching me. God is teaching me something. He is working on me, he's trying to make me believe it, and so he starts showing me things and he starts having something happen in my life and I just start writing about it and that's how my books evolved. So when I started writing Brave Woman, mighty God, there were some brave things he was asking me to do. As I said, he was teaching me that I could do more brave things and that I was braver than I thought. I was. Just like Winnie the Pooh tells Piglet right, you're braver than you think.
Speaker 2:And the process of writing a book is you write it and you might have six months to a year to actually write it, but then it goes to your publisher and it goes through. You know four to five rounds of edits, depending on. You know the theological reviewer and your main edit content editor and all these different editors who have different, and every time the edits come back to you, you're rereading the whole book, start to finish, and trying to make it better. So each time I'm going through the chapters, I'm remembering and I'm like, oh, my gosh, god, yes, I needed that today the chapter that I wrote, but that, truly, you wrote, lord, right. I needed to remember today that I can walk through that door. I needed to remember today that you give me everything I need. I needed to remember today that it's okay to ask for wisdom from someone else, that's that I can do that, that I can be brave enough to do that, and that will actually empower me. It's okay to ask for help. I needed to know today that you will give me enough. I always have this time scarcity in my life. I'm like, oh well, I have enough time to do this. Well, I have enough time to do this.
Speaker 2:And I swear every time I was editing the Zarephath's Widow chapter, which is about a woman who, literally, was living in famine and didn't have enough food, she was making the last meal for she and her son and the prophet Elijah comes up and says, hey, make me some bread. And she's like ah right, like I'm making this last meal and then we're going to die of starvation, this is all we have. And he says I promise you, like the, we're going to die of starvation. This is all we have. And he says I promise you, like the Lord's going to provide, and for months and months and months to come, her jar of grain never ran out and her jar of oil never ran out. She made this meal for Elijah. She went on to feed she and her son and Elijah, for months and months. Her son actually dies at some point. Elijah raises him back to life just because she has been caring for Elijah this whole time. And Elijah goes on to do more of this great prophet stuff that God's called him to do because she believed that God would provide.
Speaker 2:And every time I was editing that chapter, I was in a time crunch of something where I felt like I had so much going on and my schedule was so full and I was like God, I don't have enough time to X, y, z, and he would have me read that chapter and he'd be like he always has enough, he always provides, the grain will not run out, the oil will not run out. And it was just like, oh, I needed to remember. And so I feel like the Lord. I mean, I write these books. It is God working on my heart and I pray that what he teaches me will bless someone else Well he is.
Speaker 1:Your teaching is blessing other people. It certainly blessed me, and I also like hearing you talk about the writing process, because I want to tell folks you can write, you could write a book, you could write a chapter. You don't need to even think about it getting published. Enjoy the practice of writing. I do this all the time. I write all kinds of things. I do read them out loud to my husband, which I need to have at least an audience.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:He's your audience I love it and I'm like what do you think of this? But it is so fulfilling and reinforcing to write as you're learning and you don't need to have a book deal and you don't need to feel any responsibility to get it published. Free yourself of that. Just experience writing and it's amazing what you can learn, because writing makes you think critically. You know, writing makes you.
Speaker 1:So many times I put pen to paper and I don't even know what's going to come out and it's like it's a great way to think through stuff. So I'm big on reading and writing and I just it has grown me. So that's why when I read your books, yes, I'm going through and I'm writing down quotes that you say, and I'm going to your Bible verses and I'm writing them down. But then I also stop and ask myself a kind of a question, a reflection, and it helps. So maybe that's the way that people can read your books. But I just want to share that because I so love, obviously. I so love your books. Laura is just such a wonderful person. Like I said, when you read people's books and I'm not the one who said this, someone else said this but when you read someone's books, it's as if you become friends. But the funny thing is you're friends with them, they know you, they don't know. I mean, you know them, they don't know you. So it is sort of this funny kind of one-sided thing In reading the books. For me it's fun because Laura's.
Speaker 1:The reason I know Laura is because her husband is a professor at the college I went to and we connected years ago over some you know business projects. He's in charge of social entrepreneurship, which is so wonderful. It's about how to do wonderful things in the world using a business model. In fact, my son also went to Miami of Ohio Miami of Ohio, by the way and we talked about Brett yesterday because he took Brett's class and it was one of his favorite classes. So I got to know Brett and I had Brett on the podcast talking about social entrepreneurship and integrating your faith in your career, which is really cool.
Speaker 1:That's a whole different topic. And when we were done he said do you know that my wife is a Christian author? She's written a lot of books? No, I didn't. So that's how we connected. As I read Laura's books because she's relating personal stories. She references places in this college town that I so love because I know all the places. I know exactly what she's talking about. It is so fun to read and find these little slant walk bagel and deli shop. I'm like you haven't mentioned King Library too much, but whatever.
Speaker 2:I went there a lot when I was in college. You know, as an adult I don't spend a lot of time there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, dear. Well, I have kept you longer than I said I would because it's so fun to talk to you, but I want people to be able to follow up with you. You've talked about a lot of things. Talk about. If we could just for a few minutes, talk about your podcast, which is pretty new, and I've listened to it and it's really good. So tell us about your podcast.
Speaker 2:Thanks for listening. So, yeah, I've started a podcast because I had two books released within three months of each other, which was crazy. So I was like, how can I share the message messages of these books and help other people find free resources that relate to these? And so I God told me to start a podcast. So I that was a brave thing actually, that in the process of writing Brave Woman, mighty God, that God asked me to do, and I was like, oh, and as I, as I told you, he was working things on me, starting a podcast was something brave that he really encouraged me to do.
Speaker 2:So the podcast is a result of actually writing Brave Woman, mighty God. The first eight episodes are all about the urgency of slowing down which, stephanie, you were so gracious to have me on your show in that book release about how we can take out the things that deplete us in life and add in like giving practices and I've been blessed to have so many amazing guests chat with those things about, chat with those topics. And then the next eight episodes are all about how we can be brave and different Christian authors and just wonderful Christian leaders, thought leaders, about the brave things they've done or the ways God has enabled them to be brave and equip them to be brave. So it's just been a delight to talk to these people and I pray it's just a great free resource for people to slow down and save for the life God has given them and also be strong and courageous and step into that.
Speaker 2:And what is it called? Well, right now it's called Brave Woman, mighty God podcast. So the first eight episodes were called the urgency of slowing down podcast. The next eight episodes are called brave woman, mighty god podcast. So they just match the books. Are you continuing the podcast? I'm praying through that right now, stephanie, so I would appreciate prayers for that attraction I. It's been a blast and, as you know, podcasts are work as well and, with all the good work god puts in front of me, I'm just praying to see if that is the best way he wants me to use my time and resources or not. So, to be determined, stay tuned for more info.
Speaker 1:Stay tuned, you can, and your website is lauralsmithauthorcom. No, I'm not getting it right. What is it?
Speaker 2:lauralsmithauthorcom. Lauralsmithauthorcom my Instagram's lauralsmithauthor those are the best ways to find me. There's links to the podcast and to the books and there's freebies. And in fact, stephanie, can we give your listeners the free chapter of Brave Woman, mighty God? Oh, that'd be great. Yes, cool. Okay so all kinds of freebies on the website and on my Instagram, and those are the ways to find me. Laura Smith, author.
Speaker 1:I'll put in the show notes. I'll put a link to the free chapter, as well as Laura's podcast and information about how you could get Laura to speak if you'd like her to speak. She's a professional speaker. Do you ever do Zoom speaking?
Speaker 2:I do, yeah for sure, I love to be in front of real people, but it's also so efficient and lovely that we have this technology that you and I can chat today over Zoom. That's right, and that I've popped into people's Bible studies and book clubs before over Zoom and that's always a delight. Also, that's great.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's fun, all right, so I'll have all this in the show notes. Also, watch my Instagram Stephanie Nelson CM on some really neat stuff that Laura's putting out Some fun giveaway. That's all I'm going to tell you. Maybe you'll win. So thank you so much and I'm looking forward to your next book. I haven't asked you if you're working on. Are you working on a book right now?
Speaker 2:I'm working on it, but it's very like proposal stages. So, okay, all right, yeah Early. Of course I'm working on one, because God's always working something on me.
Speaker 1:So yeah, well, good, all right, I look forward to that. Laura, thank you so much for your time. It's so great to see you and get a chance to share all the cool stuff you're doing we appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me back on.
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