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Erin Cuccio: The Legacy You Build When No One’s Watching
We sit down with author, podcaster, and executive coach Erin Cuccio to talk about purpose, legacy, and the surprising power of small, faithful steps. From a uniquely designed devotional journal to confidence-building coaching, we lean into the peace that comes from living on purpose.
• the craft of clear, wise writing and why it matters
• how Live Lovely pairs scripture, reflection, prompts, and prayer
• purpose reframed in ordinary tasks and seasons
• legacy as daily choices and embodied example
• the role of journaling in clarity, gratitude, and calm
• coaching as confidence plus actionable steps
• accountability that turns vision into motion
• how to connect with Erin and get started
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I would like to welcome my friend Erin Cusio to the Pivotal People Podcast. You might recognize her name because she has been on before. She has come out with a second book. Her first book was so wonderful. She has a fabulous podcast. I'm going to read you the official bio of Erin, and then we're going to get into a wonderful conversation with a wonderful person. So Erin is an author. She's written two books. She's a speaker. She's a podcast host, really good podcast host, really good guest, really good questions. And now she's an executive coach. She's been a teacher and educator for more than a decade. And now she likes to call herself, I love this, the chief operating officer of the Cusio household. She has these three really cute, active boys. I have followed them on Instagram. Really nice husband, believe it or not. She not only does that and everything I already told you, but she also co-owns, I think we're up to two restaurants now with her husband. She's really great, she says, at bringing order out of chaos, never-ending loads of laundry, can we all relate to that? And finding some peace and quiet whenever she can. She's really passionate about helping people discover their, you know, purpose in life. And that's why she started coaching. And I think she's going to be a great coach because she's just a great friend and she's a great, she's great with people. So, Aaron, I've probably talked about you too much, but I just want to welcome you and thank you for taking the time to be here.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Stephanie, the pleasure is all mine. You are such a gift. You are so precious and kind. And I will take any opportunity to be on the other side of the mic from you. You are such not only a great podcast host, but you've become such a dear friend to me. And so thank you for having me back. It's wonderful to be here.
SPEAKER_01:Well, thank you. And I really appreciate that, Erin. I met Erin at a workshop, at a Bob Gough workshop, gosh, maybe four years ago almost. And I think I've been back to that retreat center for multiple workshops. So has she. And I've kind of watched her. Um, we've both done kind of the same thing, started a podcast, written a book, and I'm an avid reader. So I always say on this podcast, anyone who comes on, it's my personal rule, I read their entire book. That's just selfish because I just love to read, and I've read a lot of books, and I read a lot of books outside the podcast. It's my favorite hobby. So one of the things I've observed about writers, like my definition of a good writer, it's two things. One is really having good writing skill. And that doesn't come naturally. No one sits down at the piano and plays a masterpiece the first time. It comes from years of writing practice, but a good writer. I can't really describe what that is, but I know it when I see it. But the other piece of being a good writer, especially of what I'm going to call inspirational writing, like Aaron's, is wisdom. You know, you really have to have some wisdom to bring the reader. And I'm 61. So I've been through a lot of things already. So when I read books, I guess I wanted to be a whole lot wiser than I am. It's it's not that hard to reach that bar. I call it making you think. So a really good inspirational writer between being pleasant to read and having the wisdom. And let's go back to the writing skill. You may have the wisdom, but unless you can really articulate that in a way that grabs the reader, that makes the reader say, Hey, hey, I think that too. I just wasn't able to articulate it as well. But I'm so glad she said that because now I want to think about that. Anyway, you know where I'm headed with this. Erin is both of those things. I so love to read her writing, and you will too, because she is such, well, this must be because you were a teacher. Let's talk about your writing skill for a minute. How did you become a good writer?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I was going to say, in maybe my defense, I did spend more than a decade teaching writing. So those mechanics were practiced for a really long time, but I have always loved to write. Even in middle school, that was one of my favorite things to get to do. I remember getting to have a poem published in an anthology in middle school. And so it's just always been a bit of a natural thing for me. But then as I've gotten older, I've really worked to hone those skills in a way that not just is writing from a grammatically standpoint, a grammatically correct standpoint, but also in a way that captures the reader through storytelling, through helping themselves to see their own story through my story. And that is always my prayer anytime that I write anything, is that Lord, I pray that you would help people to see themselves on the pages of my story. And more than that, to see who you are on the pages of my story. Because I think when you combine those two things, that is really my goal as a writer, is for people to see the face of Jesus through everything that I write.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'll tell you, I'm kind of a devotional junkie. Aaron's current book, let's talk about it, is called Live Lovely, Make Room for Peace and Pursue a Life of Purpose. It's a devotional journal. We're going to talk about that because it's a little bit unique in that it's not just a one-day devotion. There's a Bible verse that kind of launches the devotion. Then there is the insight that Aaron has written. And then what I really love is there's a whole page to journal, and she has a prompt. She has a question for you. So it gets you to say, now, how does this apply to my life? And let me reflect on this. And then she finishes with a short prayer. So I do a quiet time every morning. I just love it. I'm and I have a stack of devotionals, and Aaron's now is my first one. Don't tell Bob Goff that, okay? And the other thing I like about Aaron's journal, for those of you who might not do a daily devotional, it doesn't have to be daily. In fact, instead of the typical devotional is day one, day two, day three, 365 days, or it's you know the actual date. So you kind of notice if you've missed. Aaron has given us the grace to say, here are a hundred devotionals. They're not meant, they're not numbered. You can pick it up randomly. Sometimes I do three in a day. So it's really nice. She covers a lot of topics, and there are three that I'd really like to get into with you today, Erin. There's a lot more than three, but she talks about really wanting to help people discover their purpose and their calling. And I'm just gonna say at the outset, for those of you who hear that, lots of times we think, oh, our purpose. I'm retired, my friends are retired. We were in book club yesterday talking about purpose. And my friend said, I know my purpose. It is nothing. At this time in my life, I want my purpose to be nothing. And I laughed because she's thinking of like, what's my purpose? To become a big speaker, to become a big author, to become a philanthropist, to travel across the world and help people in poverty. And really, what Aaron's reminding us is God doesn't measure by our worldly standards. Our purpose could be reflecting Him just in our daily life. And what does that look like for you? And that's why I like this journaling piece. So, you know, Erin, like, for example, on her 23rd devotionals, called Pursuing Your Calling. Okay, what's that? What's my calling? And she's like, stepping into your God-given purpose doesn't always mean grand gestures. In fact, often it starts with a small, faithful steps over and over and over again. Sometimes it seems like you're in the middle of the mundane. Instead of questioning your worth or waiting for the perfect moment, just start doing things and trust God. So then you go over to our next page, which is the journal. And all of a sudden, I was like, Oh my gosh, I need to get a gift, a birthday gift for Lisa. Go ahead. And I've got to text my sister. We haven't had a call in a long time. And you know, I want to send a message to this person and I want to send a card to that person. These are little things, but because of Aaron's journal, it made me write those things down. This is two days ago. I did all those things and it brought me great joy, each one of those. And was that God's purpose and calling for me that day? I think it was. Yeah. You know? So Aaron talked to me about, you know, in the course of your life, I think we can relate to you. You know, she's a mother, she's trying to balance a career, she's trying to support her husband. You know, talk to me about some of the things that you do on a daily basis just to remind yourself to pursue God's calling for your life.
SPEAKER_00:You know, Stephanie, you know, Stephanie, I think that for me, so often when I was considering purpose in my life several years ago, I would get so frustrated because it felt like I didn't have the capacity to pursue a big grand purpose, right? I'm in the trenches of raising these three boys. We've got these businesses. I there's so many things that are holding me back from or perceivingly holding me back to really go out and live a life of grand purpose. And one day I was literally sitting on the floor folding laundry, and I'll be honest, with not a great attitude. Like, I do so much around here. I'm so sick of matching these socks. I'm so frustrated. Like, God, I know that you've called me to great things and I'm just stuck here doing this laundry, you know? And I just felt God whisper into my heart, this for now is your purpose in this season. And oftentimes I, our pastor says that we are married to the mission, but we're not married to the methods. And I love that because it really made me pause and consider how can the mundane actually be my mission? How can sitting on the floor folding laundry actually be what God has for me today as my purpose? Just as you were talking about, you know, picking up a card or calling a friend or texting someone to let them know that you're thinking about them. Sometimes it is those most simple things that God really needs us to do to pursue a life of purpose. For me, that laundry was just another day, another task, another thing that needed to be done. But for my kids, I'm creating a home of peace. I'm creating a world of order for them. I'm creating a haven where they know that they are safe and that they are loved and that they are cared for. And I think when I stopped looking at the socks and I started looking at the mission of what I was called to do, it all made it make so much more sense. And I think, yes, God calls us to start podcasts. He calls us to write books, he calls us to go and do great things. And sometimes he calls us to the really simple things that aren't that glamorous, but that can make such a big impact in our worlds.
SPEAKER_01:And those are the things that our kids are going to remember. And you have another devotional that I love talking about legacy, and it's kind of as in the same camp because, especially in my age group, people are like, oh, what is my legacy? What's your legacy? And how are people going to remember me? And it's really important that I be remembered. And let's start, like I wrote the first line in my journal after reading her thing on legacy was the reality is that we will be forgotten far more than we will be remembered. You know, what is it? They're not going to remember who we are, right? What my name was, where I was born, what I did for a career. They're not going to remember that past two generations for sure, if even only one generation. However, what I love is this is Aaron's writing. Every day, the choices we make shape the legacy we will leave behind. Legacy isn't built in a single moment, it's formed in the small daily decisions, choosing kindness, prioritizing faith, serving others, and living well. It's the lessons we teach, but not with our words, with our lives. So our legacy, as I think about it, is our children and how they choose to live and what their choices are. What they learn from us isn't what we tell them, it's what they observe. That's our legacy. It's subtle. It's never about us. It's never about when my son David Nelson goes out into the world and he is a certain way. I hope that some of that came from his father and me. However, it's not, hey, look, that's Stephanie Nelson's son. No, it's David Nelson now facing the world with that. And his children, hopefully, will. So what is the most important is how we live in our daily life. My sons probably couldn't even tell you the name of my book. They don't care about that, but they can tell you whether I took their phone call and listened to them when they needed someone to talk to. They could tell you that. So what is legacy? So could you talk about legacy a little bit? Because that's a, I think that's one of those words with a capital L that make a lot of us feel nervous, guilty, whatever. What's our legacy? What are we supposed to be doing?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think every day people are looking at their lives and they're thinking, what am I building? What am I leaving behind? And I think it's easy to get overwhelmed by that, to think, oh God, what am I building? What am I leaving behind? But I'll give you just a really practical story. Something that happened just this week. Two of my boys are teenagers now. So they've got phones and we can text, which is a blessing and a curse. But I have this thing where I've created monsters with my children in that I am a girl that likes a plan. And so now they want to know, what is the plan? What do we have here? And so one of my sons and I were texting back and forth about some practices that were scheduled. He was asking me to put them on our family calendar so that we would have it on the schedule. And we were going over a particular weekend and I was listing off all of the things that we were going to need to put into that weekend. And he said, Oh gosh, that's a lot. And I said, It is. I said, but we're gonna make it. And he responded and said, Yes, ma'am, because we're Cusio's. And that simple little thing just hit me like a ton of bricks because I thought that comes from something so much larger than what I think I should be implementing in the home every single day. That comes from a life lived with consistency, an example of hard work, a conversation of we are winners and we are going to go out and do this with excellence, and we are going to be generous to people, and we are going to be kind to people in every circumstance that we can. But this is who we are as a family. And when he replied to that, and just, you know, we are cussios, it's like it just hit me so hard to know that's what matters most, that I am calling out an identity in them that because of who they are in this family, because of who God has created them to be, we can run with confidence in the lane that God has called us to run in and just keep going after the purposes that He has for us. And I think that matters so much more than anything that I will ever achieve in this life on my own.
SPEAKER_01:I can't agree more. I mean, really, it's when, and you know, let's face it, most of us who have kids, there have been some real bumps in the road, and you're like, where did that come from? Did that come from me? What happened here? And what they'll remember is whether or not we hang with them through it. Yeah. Or whether we judge them. And so my kids are 29 and 31. So I feel like the older your kids get, the more humble you become.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then if, like you said, if you've done it right, the identity at the end is or in the middle, hey, we're all a family. Hey, we're all in communication. That's the important thing. And that you've demonstrated that home is where, you know, I loved how you said it's their safe haven. Yeah. You know, the world's going to have a whole bunch of stuff. But can this be the non-judgmental safe haven? Can this be what they see as an example? One of the things I've already said that I love about your devotional is your journaling section. And I said to Aaron before we even started this podcast, I'd really like for you to talk about the value of journaling. You obviously think it's important because you devoted 50% of the space of your book to journaling. I'm a big believer in journaling just because I enjoy it. I've had readers, I've I've read writers who talk about the value of journaling. It helps you process things instead of spinning and ruminating in your head. You get it on paper. But it's interesting when I talk to my friends about journaling, the first thing they all say for people who don't journal is, oh my gosh, I could never write that down because what if someone read it? Or another gal said, I've got a stack of journals and I've said, you know, if I die, someone's got to come in and burn all those before anyone in my family reads them, all these things, which is understandable. And I said, you know, there are times where I've written a couple of pages in my journal, like I'm just going to be honest. I'm really writing to God. I'm going to be completely honest here, and then I tear the pages up, you know. But what has been your observation, Erin, for this journaling practice? And why do you obviously think it's of value?
SPEAKER_00:I think for me, to be honest, journaling has not always come easily. It is not something that I always enjoy, but I definitely see the value in it. I know that in my own experience with devotionals, one of the hangups that I kept feeling like was causing me to not be able to get through the devotional, no matter how great it was, is that I would read it and I would close the book and then I would put it away. And then that was kind of it. And sure, there was wisdom there or there was maybe a scripture that I would hold on to, but it's like it just fell flat a little bit because how does that apply to my life? How does that apply to who I am? On the opposite end of things, I have before gotten a devotional and then a blank journal and tried, okay, I'm gonna sit down with this devotional and I'm going to journal after what I feel or what I think about this topic. And where I felt like that fell short was sometimes staring at those blank lines made me feel so overwhelmed that I don't know how I want to respond to this. I don't know what's important. I don't know what to say. And so the way that I chose to couple it in the book with the devotional and then the journal side with a prompt does two things for me. Number one, it forces people to pause because we live in such a fast-paced world where people sometimes want to just read that devotional, shut the book, and close it, right? I wanted people to feel the opportunity to be able to just take a minute and make room for peace, right? That's in the title. Like make room in your life, even if it's just a few moments, to jot down what you think. But I don't want you to feel so overwhelmed by what do I need to say so eloquently in response to what I just read? And I think having that question, as if we're just sitting over coffee talking as friends, and I say, hey, what did you think about this? Or hey, what is this very pointed question that kind of applies to what you just read? It helps you to find a starting place to be able to write down your thoughts. And I think once you get in that habit and practice of responding to that question, the words tend to flow so much more freely and you don't feel held captive by did I say that correctly? Did I write that sentence completely? It doesn't matter. Just pour out your thoughts onto the page, let it be what it is, and just take a moment to make room for peace in your life.
SPEAKER_01:I love that because that is how it feels. I I read another writer, he wrote a whole essay about the value of journaling, and he said a couple things. One he said was, we have these thoughts that ruminate in my in your head. What if you just you just start writing and he said, I never know what's going to come out on the paper? But then, you know, you just start writing and you're kind of maybe you're describing the problem, but then you get a light bulb moment, and then you're you end up coming up with some sort of resolution, even that let me give an example. So let's say you're angry at a neighbor for some silly thing, and then you're describing that. And then you're saying, well, maybe I could overlook, and then you say, What I really want, this is the aspirational part. Like, I'm not here yet, God, but what I really want is to be forgiving and non-judgmental. Please help me be forgiving and non-judgmental. And what he says is, even if we're not even close to feeling that yet, by simply writing what we aspire to, it helps, it changes our neuropathways and our brain. It changes the way we're thinking, it stops that rumination, and it helps us become what we're writing. And so the ancient philosophers, I've just started reading an ancient philosopher just for interest. That's what they were doing. They were writing what their aspirational virtues were. They hadn't arrived yet, but by writing it, it got them a step closer to it. And then you can close the book and feel like, all right, I'm heading off into the day with trying to be, and but fortunately, I journal every day because I've usually got it messed up by about 10 a.m. So I need to come back the next morning. And but it is, I find it adds peace. That's the word, Erin. It brings you to a point of peace instead of that spinning around if there's any spinning around. And lots of it also surfaces thankfulness. You know, writing down all the things you're thankful for is puts that little issue in perspective. Yeah. So lots of things. But I love that you've included that. I love that you've included the prompt. As I said, your, you know, your wisdom is just clear here. And I'm not going to make you say your age, but I'm going to tell you she's a couple decades younger than I am. And somehow she has accumulated this level of wisdom in her short life that we can all learn from, which is great that you're starting being an executive coach. So I would love to hear about that. Can you tell us about that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I have really, you know, I lived a lot of my life where I really wanted people to think that everything was sunshine and butterflies all of the time. And I was so well put together and I was so afraid to show anyone any of the broken parts of my story. And what I found was that when I began to lead with authenticity, when I began to show up as my vulnerable self and not be afraid to say, hey, this was broken and maybe it still is, or this was broken and look how God mended it. People all around me began to relate to that so much more than the person who was pretty polished, all put together, right? And I think it's because we live in a broken world. People have struggles, people have things that are difficult. And no one wants to sit at the table with the person who is perceived to have it all together. They want to sit at the table with someone who they can relate to, who is transparent about, hey, I'm not perfect. I don't have it all together, but this is what I've learned so far in my life. And so, in my experience in coaching, my greatest joy is to be able to come alongside mostly women who are just wanting to pursue that life of purpose, wanting to kind of wrangle and wrestle with some of those things that they feel are holding them back, and then be able to call out potential in them, help them see who God says that they are. I know so often in my own life, it has been so helpful for people to look at me and say, hey, this is what I see in you. This is what I believe God wants for you. This is what I see as a strength of yours, as a gift of yours, because oftentimes we don't see that in ourselves, right? And so being able to sit across from these women and say, hey, this is what I see in you, and this is value that I see that you bring to the table, I think that's transformative in the way that they can then go and show up for other people. And so being able to do that one-on-one with other women, being able to walk in and do it with teams, which is also another way that I'm able to go in and do workshops and work with businesses, I feel like building an individual for the sake of the whole team is an incredible way to build efficiency in any sort of business team situation. And so those two sides of things have really become just some of my greatest joys to get to pour into people and say, hey, I see greatness in you.
SPEAKER_01:And to be specific about that. So I'm listening to this, Erin, and I'm thinking, you know, I I've had professional coaches on the podcast, and one gal, I'll never forget what she said. She said, Everyone needs to have a therapist and a coach. And those are two different things. Don't make your coach your therapist. Don't expect your coach to be your therapist, and don't expect your therapist to be your coach. And maybe you just do one of them. I never thought I needed a coach when because I was retired, right? There's no purpose there, huh? And I did coaching with Bob Goff as you did. And then I came away from that and thought, oh, the vet for me, the value of a coach was giving me someone to be accountable to. So, you know, you can have a session with a coach and and understand, okay, here's here's what I want to accomplish, and here are the three or four things I need to get done. And if it was just me and my to-do list, you know, maybe those wouldn't get done because but all of a sudden, when there's this person I respect who I'm paying to, who I need to answer to, it it gets me to do those things, which ultimately were some of the best things that I've been able to experience. But just having a coach come alongside me and say, I think you can get that done. They weren't saying, in fact, it's also what you're saying, Erin, for the coach to say, I know you can do that.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_01:I know you can do that. Bob Goff told me I should have a podcast. I said, Well, I can't do a podcast. Why can't you do a podcast? Well, because I'm not a podcast professional. He said, It's just talking to friends. You know why I'm so thankful I had that coach? Because I have, I'm sitting here talking to Aaron Cusio, who I would never have known before, who is such a delightful person, who I'm so glad I know. I was telling my husband about you before we started this. You know, it opens your world. So a coach can come along side you and say, you know, there's something that you don't even see in yourself. And it's going to add something to your life, and it's going to add something to other people's lives. So, Aaron, how can people work with you? Like, describe to me if if someone got, you know, got off this podcast and said, I want to get in touch with Aaron, what could they expect like specifically from you in your coaching process?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So the best way to connect with me is on my website. I have a page there that talks about my coaching. And you click on that and it asks you to fill out a little bit of a form. And I will be back in touch with you just to send you a little bit lengthier questionnaire that really gets at what are your goals? What are you wanting to do? Why is having a coach important in your life right now? And that just kind of gives me an idea of where you stand so that we can decide if we would be a good fit together. After that, we would have a call where we can see each other face to face or computer to computer and really just get to connect in a way where I can hear your heart because I think that it's so important for people to see someone who is looking back at them and letting them know that they are seen and known. I want people to feel seen and known. And then after working with me, empowered to take the next step. You know, working with Bob and just having that experience in my life, one of the greatest gifts that he gave me was taking all these big ideas that I had in my mind, all these big dreams that I thought, I can't ever have that. I can't ever achieve that, I can't ever do a podcast, right? And really putting handlebars on it and breaking it down into more actionable steps where I'm like, wait, maybe this is possible for a girl like me. And I think that there are so many people out there who are thinking, is that possible for a girl like me? And I'm here to tell you that it is. And if there's one thing that I thrive in, it is systems and order. And so what I love to do is let's talk about what's on your heart. Let's talk about what's most important to you. And now that we have that piece of things, now that we know what you really desire, what you feel like you want to pursue, and if you're not sure, let's figure it out together. Then let's create some systems, some actionable steps that we can take to get us a little bit closer and a little bit closer and a little bit closer. Because truly, the great big things that we achieve in our lives are not achieved by one big, great leap. They are often achieved by bold, shaky steps of faith, one step at a time. And that is what I love to do is to help people feel empowered to take that one bold, shaky step at a time until they can look back and say, wow, that is where it led me. That is what I was able to accomplish. That has been laying here all along waiting to be achieved. Wow. Right.
SPEAKER_01:So I love that. I love that. I have a coach now who's helping me with something that I just thought I couldn't handle. And she's just holding my hand and teaching me stuff that I thought I was too old to learn. And you know the feeling you get, you know, the feeling you get when you actually learn something that you thought you couldn't learn. It is such a great feeling. Like that in itself is the reason to have a coach. So we don't feel I know it's overused this whole idea of feeling stuck, but feeling stuck. Like I'm too X to do this. No, you're not, but it's What Aaron's talking about, which is what I love, is a coach can break this thing down into an organized list of tasks and steps. And we can all do these little steps. And if you can't, then you ask the coach to hold your hand and teach you how to do it.
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SPEAKER_01:And that's the beauty of a coach. And I think it's well worth it.
SPEAKER_00:So what I've found, I think, is that oftentimes people aren't lacking knowledge. I mean, we live in a very knowledge-driven culture, right? Anything that I want to know about, I can Google it. I can get onto ChatGPT. I can do all the things to tell me all the steps. Knowledge is not the problem, confidence is, is what I have found. And people don't feel confident enough to put those steps into practice, to do those things that they know that they should be doing. They don't feel like it's possible for them. And so for me, I think what is something that would set me apart is saying, I'm not just here to give you those actionable steps, or I'm not just here to show you the method, although that is a way that I thrive, but I am here to give you the confidence to do what I know that you are called to do, that you have been put on this earth to do and help you see that for yourself.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. So the website is we'll have everything in the show notes, but I don't expect anyone to go to the show notes. So I always say it here, erincucio.com. Is that it? Okay. Erincusio.com. Follow her on Instagram. She's very active on Instagram, has some really good, just bite-sized pieces of information and inspiration there. Plus, you'll see her cute family to get to know her better. Reach out to her, even if you don't think coaching is a thing. And at the very least, I want you to go on Amazon or wherever you buy books and get a copy of Live Lovely. I mean, this is a just a daily dose of really good input. I always like to say for our minds, garbage in, garbage out, you know, watching, you know, stupid TV, which I'm guilty of, to go in and say, you know, I want to start the day with some really good stuff. Let me put some really good stuff in my mind. And how different will my day look? So thank you, Erin. I've really loved having the chance to catch up with you. And I look forward to hearing how your coaching business develops and how the book does.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you so much. It's always a joy to be with you. I appreciate it. Thank you, Stephanie. You're welcome.